Hat tip to Free Cyprus for this video:
From WikiPedia on Laskar Jihad, emphasis mine:
Laskar Jihad, or Holy War Warriors, was formed in 2000 in Ambon, Moluccan Islands, Indonesia, by Jafar Umar Thalib, who studied in Pakistan and fought with the mujahidin in Afghanistan in the late 1980s. Jafar admits to having met Osama bin Laden there but dismisses him saying the al Qaeda chief "knew nothing about true religion". Jafar claims to have rejected al Qaeda funding in 2001.
Between May 2000 to December 2001 an estimated 10,000 people were killed and hundreds of thousands had to flee their towns as Laskar Jihad burnt indigenous Melanesian Churches and communities in Ambon and other Moluccas islands as well as Christian communities in Sulawesi. A video of the group being welcome to Ambon by Indonesian authorities was later joined by allegations of murdered, torture, forced conversion to Islam, and forced circumcision. During 2001 and 2002 Laskar Jihad began to expand its activities sending militants to the provinces of Aceh and Papua, at opposite ends of the country. Although the group after the Bali bombing in October 2002 announced it was disbanding, during 2003 it requested the Indonesian government provide office space in Papua. In May 2003 reports smuggled out of Papua claimed fire and machete had been used to destroy ten townships, their food gardens and live stock sending the surviving women and children into jungle hiding from Indonesian forces. Video footage of an alleged Laskar Jihad training camp was broadcast in May 2005, and during June 2006 witness statements were gathered concerning three jihad training camps with 2500 troops allegedly training with TNI assistance near the PNG border.
Jafar, when asked (by Jessica Stern, in her book "Terrorism in the Name of God")whether he promotes Wahhabism in Indonesia responded: "No, not exactly. Sheik Muhammad ibn-Abdul Wahhab emphasizes some hadith that are weak....Ahle Sunnah-the Islamic teachings that we embrace-are more reliable, more fundamental. We are not taking Wahhab's point of view; we identify ourselves as people who follow Muhammad's friends. We criticize some of Wahhab's literature, as relying too heavily on weak hadith that may not be the word of Allah." He considers himself more fundamentalist than Osama bin Laden, though he makes a distinction between 'kafir' (infidels) who hurt Muslims and kafir who either help or do not harm Muslims. The former he is fighting against, the latter, he believes, ought not to be hurt. Television is banned in Laskar camps and women wear burqa; but
Got that? This is one bad dude, who thinks OBL is soft on the kaffir! This guy is persecuting Christians horrifically, and believes in the conversion by the sword, death, or dhimmitude!
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It's time to find some armor, horses, horse armor, giant swords and head to the land of the Moors. They claim it's a Holy War so why not accomodate them?
Yes, indeed! Can you just imagine if these Christians fought back, and destroyed Laskar Jihad? We'd hear about THEN from the MSM... All that "disproportionate response" crap...
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I had just eaten prior to watching the video. I became quite sick to my stomach watching it.
I'm indifferent to Pat Robertson but what is happening to Christians in Indonesia seems to have been swept under the carpet by the mainstream media...
Brooke if I have told you this story before please forgive me.
While I was in the Navy I was on a cruise in 2000 and we went to Surabaya Indonesia for an exercise. While getting off the ship one day a man came up to me in tears. He asked if I was a Christian, to which I replied yes.
He explained that he was as well and that he and his family had been undergoing terrible persecution. When I got home he asked, please tell the church in the US to pray for the Indonesian Christians. He told me of beatings, killings and kidnappings.
I prayed with him and promised to tell my church.
Later an Indonesian man on the pier had a heart attack and our docs and corpsman performed CPR on him until the ambulance came. They rode with him to the hospital..where he died. Later I talked to the corpsman and he told me there were bodies everywhere at the hospital. When he asked what was going on he was told that they were Christians whose bodies were dumped at the hospital...some were bound, gagged etc. Indonesia is a terrible place to be a Christian.
FreeCyprus-After all, it's just Christians, or observent Jews. They don't count, after all Christians and Jews are sooooo oppressive to others...we're only getting what we deserve!
tmw
EB: You hadn't told me that one before. How horrible! We should thank God every day that we are Christians in the nation we live in... And pray for those who know such violent persecution!
TMW: Isn't it amazing that the MSM will, as FC said, simply sweep it under the rug? Sick!
brooke, I tried to leave a comment earlier but my computer went down. I hope you didn't mind I borrowed on this and left a link on EB relating this story and the one I shared.
Not at all!
elmer's brother, stories like that need to be repeated and repeated. I'd like to start a fundraiser to send the law corps of the ACLU to defend Christian's freedoms. That'll take care of the ACLU
obob...they'd have to hire a ton more lawyers
I have a feeling they'd all be washing their hair that day...
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